Difference between revisions of "Talk:BR Riddles 4MT 80079"

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Regarding Patrick's recent edit, can anyone confirm to what extent the Standard Class 4 tanks were used on the Severn Valley branch in service? The BR Database suggests several were withdrawn from Kidderminster shed in 1965, so they were certainly in the area. However I've seen photos in various books of at least 6 different Class 3 tanks on the line (82000/04/05/09/21/32) but I don't remember a photo of a Class 4. --Robin (talk) 13:36, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

Based on route availability arguments, it seems unlikely - at least with any regularity! The "Locomotive Route Availability" booklet available on Michael Clemen's site shows 3MTThe British Railways system of classifying steam locomotives by power using a number from 0, least powerful, to 9, most powerful, followed by either F for freight, P for Passenger or MT for Mixed Traffic. tanks as Yellow, whilst 4MTThe British Railways system of classifying steam locomotives by power using a number from 0, least powerful, to 9, most powerful, followed by either F for freight, P for Passenger or MT for Mixed Traffic. tanks are rated as Blue. Given the SVRSevern Valley Railway's classification as dotted blue from Bewdley to Buildwas, any 4MTThe British Railways system of classifying steam locomotives by power using a number from 0, least powerful, to 9, most powerful, followed by either F for freight, P for Passenger or MT for Mixed Traffic. tank would be limited to 25mph. --Danny252 (talk) 15:11, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

...on the other hand, we do have historic photos of 80072 pottering about the line on multiple days in 1963! Photo 1 Photo 2 Photo 3 Seems those route availability restrictions didn't phase BRBritish Rail or British Railways planners. --Danny252 (talk) 20:31, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

Interesting find - the weather certainly looks right for Winter 62/63! The BRBritish Rail or British Railways Database has 80072 allocated to Swansea East Dock at the time – I wonder how it finished up working services on the SVRSevern Valley Railway from there? Maybe locos ended up in the wrong place because of the snow and BRBritish Rail or British Railways just used what was available. --Robin (talk) 13:27, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

...Possible answer, the 80072 loco website suggests an earlier spell at Shrewsbury not mentioned in the BRBritish Rail or British Railways Database. The exceptional weather could certainly be a reason to take liberties with the route classification. --Robin (talk) 13:38, 29 March 2017 (UTC)