Talk:Carriages formerly resident on the SVR

Elsewhere on this Wiki it's Mr. D.R. Gwynne-Jones. On this page it's Dr. Gwynne-Jones. Was he a Dr, and if so is it Dr. D.R. throughout? Or did his initials get mis-joined to a title?--Patrick Hearn (talk) 19:47, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

It's a bit unclear to be honest.

• Early SVRSevern Valley Railway News (9, 10 and 13) refer to Mr. D. R. G. Gwynne-Jones who in 1967 was the principal of a Technical College in Sierra Leone. However Chris George's 40th Anniversary article in SVRSevern Valley Railway News 151 mentions "On 23rd March 1967, 3205, together with 4 coaches owned by Dr. Gwynne-Jones who lived in Sierra Leone,..."
• The article I was quoting in SVRSevern Valley Railway News 35 specifcally refers to an amicable settlement with Dr. Gwynne-Jones, using "Dr." twice. However a follow up article in SVRSevern Valley Railway News 37 refers to the remaining coaches owned by Mr. Gwynne-Jones. Plus the Stock Books use "D.R." rather than "D.R.G."
• The obituaries report in SVRSevern Valley Railway News 106 (Spring 1993) refers to the passing of Mr. D. R. G. Gwynne-Jones of Brecon. A quick Google finds reference to D. R. G. Gwynne-Jones in connection with Brecon Cathedral and a book on Africa, but neither clarifies one way or the other. --Robin (talk) 22:05, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

He is mostly referred to as D.R.G. with the odd reference to Professor, and a scholarship at Cambridge. An intelligent guess is that he had a doctorate and was Dr in academic circles. There's no hard rule, but there's a good deal of English style guide/etiquette that only medical doctors use the Dr title outside academia. I propose we refer to him as D. R. G. Gwynne-Jones throughout, for consistency, unless anyone disagrees?--Patrick Hearn (talk) 23:14, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

Sounds sensible. I've already tried to update this page but the forum is having one of its 'unexpected disconnection' days when I did. Will try again at some point unless you beat me to it. --Robin (talk) 11:36, 25 March 2021 (UTC) As usual, give it a while and it decides to play ball. --Robin (talk) 12:16, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Do we know any more about the man? Does anyone at Didcot know about him? It seems to me that we should do him the honour of getting his name and title right, at least.[from mrmover]

Other than the above, internet searches show him the co-author of a geography text book in Sierra Leone, a scholarship in his name at Cambridge and several eminent people with the same surname in Brecon, presumably descendants or relatives. I was hoping for an obituary but it was pre-internet days. If someone has contacts at Didcot or can find out more, it's an open edit Wiki for anyone that can add info.--Patrick Hearn (talk) 17:41, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

London Gazette 5 October 1951 "Wilts. R. The undermentioned officers relinquish their commns., 6th Oct. 1951, and are granted hon. ranks as shown: Lt. (War Subs. Capt.) D. R. G. GWYNNE-JONES (200351)—Maj.--Patrick Hearn (talk) 17:47, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

He also co-authored "Short Notes on the Parish Church of St. Peter, Coughton, Warwickshire" compiled by D. R. G. Gwynne-Jones, A. F. Mason and W. A. Partridge. Also, "26 March 1966, 2-6-2T No 6106 worked light from Southall to Taplow “for storage pending preservation”. 6106 had been purchased for £1,500 at the beginning of 1966 by Great Western Society member D R Gwynne-Jones."--Patrick Hearn (talk) 11:47, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

I've tried several times on different days to add LMSLondon Midland & Scottish Railway 31281 Gangwayed Full Brake to the scrapped vehicles (from SVRSevern Valley Railway News 218), but I get repeated error messages. Anyone else fancy a go?--Patrick Hearn (talk) 19:22, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

I've again tried to update this page but the forum is having another of its repeated 'unexpected disconnection' spats when I did. Will try again at some point unless someone beats me to it. Text follows--Patrick Hearn (talk) 18:30, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

| LMSLondon Midland & Scottish Railway || 31281 || LMSLondon Midland & Scottish Railway Gangwayed Brake || 2022 || 2022 || Acquired by the Charitable Trust from East Anglian Railway Museum for spares, remains broken shortly after arrival. Parts used in SVRSevern Valley Railway based LMSLondon Midland & Scottish Railway Carriages. Bogies saved || Link

Don't know why this page seems particularly troublesome at times, but I copied it across and it saved first time. --Robin (talk) 20:39, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

A double check please for scrapped carriages. We have:
GWRGreat Western Railway 2214 / DW150393.
GWRGreat Western Railway 5786 also erroneously shown as DW150393 - an image says it’s DW150338. A search under the RCTS says broken up c1994. The commentary on this page says: Seen at Willesden in mid-1993.[19] Broken up circa 1999,[5] bogies and parts saved[20]. I suspect the RCTS is correct, the 1993 relates to 5786 and the 1999 commentary relates to 2214 - I can’t get behind the paywall of departmentals.com to confirm though - but I think Robin has?--Patrick Hearn (talk) 00:25, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

Good spot. Having checked what I can, 2214 is confirmed as becoming DW150393 (RCERegional Civil Engineer(ing) Staff and Dormitory Coach) circa 11/96 per Longworth (2018) pp.78, 170. The scrapping date of 11 June 1999 is from SVRSevern Valley Railway News 130. 5786 is confirmed as becoming DW150338 (Sleeping Mess and Tool Coach) circa 03/62 by Longworth (2018) pp.73, 170. 5786 is mentioned in the 1998 Stock Book under 'Vehicles scrapped on the SVRSevern Valley Railway', the scrapping location being Kidderminster and the date presumably before publication in June 1998. I can't find any mention of it being acquired or indeed scrapped in SVRSevern Valley Railway News, it was probably bought for spares and scrapped shortly after arrival. --Robin (talk) 15:36, 15 April 2024 (UTC)